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Parodied mercilessly in the National Lampoon's Doon, where two characters have a half-hour long conversation without knowing what the other is talking about. Used dramatically in Stargate Universe with Chloe revealing that she knows about the thing that he knows, it's just that... the 'thing'.. is Eli being in love with her whilst she's in love and in a relationship with one of Eli's best friends. When one team manages to figure out the second team's signals they'll usually try to only act on that knowledge at a critical point in the game. The second manager might intentionally allow them to try and steal the signal so at the critical point they think they know what's being planned. Which could cause paranoia in the first manager if the signal seemed too easy to steal, leading to suspicion of a setup. Which the second manager would know, so...
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I mean my current shoe size. Not my shoe size when I was 5 years old. 57. Did I vote in the last election?Edgar Allan Poe plays this one straight in one of his mystery stories, " The Purloined Letter". Private eye C. Auguste Dupin actually explains that this is the reason he can outwit the police and get his man. The police know who stole the document; the thief knows the police know. The difference between Dupin and the police is that Dupin knows the suspect knows the police know, and the police don't know that. A hilarious example exists in The Princess Bride with mid-level villain Vizzini. He goes through all sorts of permutations on which goblet has the poison in it, based on his observations and the defeat of his minions. In the end, he was right in all his deductions, as every conclusion he reached was that he could not choose one of the two goblets, but he failed to take his deductions to the logical conclusion: his opponent had poisoned both goblets of wine. His opponent had spent four years building up an immunity to that particular poison. Plugged" by Eoin Colfer: "He lied, and we both knew; what we didn't know was whether the other knew that we knew."
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In the Magic: The Gathering novel Test of Metal, Jace and Tezzeret play this game, each trying to anticipate the other's moves while knowing the other is doing the same thing and knowing the other knows this. Ravages of Time runs on this trope. One strategist would lay out a plan, and in the end would say, "Of course, if the enemy strategist is any good, he would know that I will be planning this, so...".During World War II, the Allies realized that one could confuse enemy radar by dropping small pieces of aluminum, i.e., chaff, but didn't do this because they were concerned that if they did, the Germans would figure this out . As it turned out, the Germans had also discovered this but weren't doing it because of the same logic. The Dune series is renowned for its incredibly intricate layers-upon-layers of this kind of gambit. Sugary cereal treats or healthy oatmeals? Seems like the choice is pretty obvious. 79. Did I ever get in trouble in school? If yes, do you remember what for? The villain of Under Siege 2 does this while explaining to the muscle of the operation that he's going to demonstrate the power of his earthquake-shooting satellite by using it on a fertilizer plant in China: "[The fertilizer plant] is actually a secret chemical weapons testing facility. We know this. The Chinese know that we know. However, we pretend we don't know, and they pretend they don't know that we know that they know we know. But know that we know. In the end, everyone knows."
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This is often done by the players themselves during wifi Pokémon battles. Ha, you've sent out your Gyarados against my Starmie? I'll just use Thunderbolt to exploit your 4x weakness to electricity! But you know I'll do that. So you'll switch in a ground type that will be immune, so I should use Surf. But you know that I know that you know, so you'll leave in Gyarados, letting it soak up the not-very-effective hit in exchange for hitting me with Giga Impact; therefore, I should use Thunderbolt after all. But you know that I know that you know that I know, so you'll switch out, and— Paranoia can be a funny thing. It seems no matter how well you've prepared or you how you anticipate possible outcomes, there's always someone who can mess your plan up if he knows about it. Ah, but how do you know he knows? He may be acting like he doesn't know so you won't do anything different that he can't predict. This, inevitably, leads to the following paranoid rant: The first book alone features a subverted Red Herring Mole (someone suspected of being a traitor who is both too obvious to be the real mole as well as Beneath Suspicion, but actually turns out to be the traitor), followed by an elaborate mind game played by Thufir Hawat to set the Harkonnens against one another, and capped with Paul successfully bluffing and counter-bluffing the combined forces of the Bene Gesserit, the Imperium, and the Spacing Guild. The Baron Harkonnen discusses this trope with his nephew in his introductory chapter, calling it "plans within plans within plans."
EllipsisGoblins : I say stuff to Danielle, then I tweet what I said, then I tell her that I tweeted it and now I'm tweeting that I said I tweeted what I said. Ross: Wait a minute. Wait a minute, you-you hated the name Ruth. Why...Why would you change your mind? Unless...you know we're never going to have to use it. You did see the folder. You know it's a boy! Trading card games can have a variety of rules, exceptions, and so on to keep things interesting, but Yu-Gi-Oh! is well-known for the numerous and sometimes surprising ways the action can be altered, and the official rules tell you to expect this by saying that if a card says something contrary to the rules, you follow the card. There are cards to alter almost any aspect of the game: from draw to battle to endgame, so any action you take can begin this kind of mindgame. As my colleague, you should know this, right? 92. Do you know exactly what tasks fall under my job description? Empty City: Zhuge Liang sits alone in an empty city playing his harp while a rival army comes up. They know that Zhuge is a genius and is obviously up to something. Knowing they would know this, the city really is empty, and the whole thing was a stall tactic. That worked.
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Level 4: Y(4) is aware of the above play, and knows that the logical reaction to finding out the deception will play right into X(3)'s hands. Thus, Y(4) plays around X(3). Over at Not Always Right there are many examples of people operating at level -1. The general scheme is that the narrator is being completely honest, but the idiot (usually a customer) thinking the narrator is trying to fool them in some way, ignores or deliberately goes against advice, and in doing so harms themself. E.g. In "Riding the Bullet", by Stephen King, the main character is on the verge of freaking out when he dizzies his own mind with how he can't let the dead guy next to him know that he knows that he knows that he's dead (or something, I'm quoting from memory). Future Diary: Considering it's a series that's about people trying to kill each other to become God where each and every one of them can predict the future this happens often. Bob: Okay. I want you to listen very carefully and tell me if I've got this right. You're angry about what you think I said about what you said about what you thought I said (but we now both agree I didn't say) about what you thought I thought you thought about what I did when you did what you did when I didn't do what you thought I said I would do but what I thought I said I would try to do, is that right?
Have I ever ranted about work with you? 96. Do I like participating in non-work activities at the office? Wanna grab some lunch together later? 100. If I could change anything about my job, what would it be? Lando: Thrawn or no Thrawn, the Empire is still down to eight sectors. Maybe this is really all he's going for, hoping to confuse Coruscant so badly it just freezes up. In the Fall Classic tournament, Subaru Mimasaka defeats Takumi Aldini by doing the exact same dish (a semifreddo), taking it just one step further to improve on it, and he'd even planned for Takumi trying to improvise on the spot. He tries to do it on Soma, who is confident enough that he can win that he even tells Mimasaka the dish he plans to prepare (beef stew) to make his job even easier, and even counts on Mimasaka pulling it off. What Mimasaka didn't expect, however, was that Soma would continue to try and make improvements to his dish up to the moment their match began, so his own improvements weren't enough to counter Soma's. In essence, where Mimasaka tried to go only one step ahead of the original dish, Soma decided to go ten.
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